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Episode 69: The Widespread Effects of DMT Waste in Multiple Sclerosis

Mind Moments®, a podcast from NeurologyLive®, brings you an exclusive interview with Darin T. Okuda, MD, and Karin Cook. [LISTEN TIME: 55 minutes]

Episode 69 of the NeurologyLive Mind Moments® podcast is now live! Scroll down to listen or click here to subscribe on your favorite streaming service.

The Mind Moments® podcast features exclusive interviews with leaders in the field discussing the latest research and disease management strategies across the breadth of neurology, including epilepsy, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson disease, dementia, sleep disorders, and more.

Episode 69, "The Widespread Effects of DMT Waste in Multiple Sclerosis," features an exclusive interview with Darin T. Okuda, MD, professor of neurology and director of Neuroinnovation and the Multiple Sclerosis & Neuroimmunology Imaging Program at The University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas; and Karin Cook, senior vice president of medical strategy and clinical ethnographer, Heartbeat Medical Communications. The pair spoke about their research into the wasted costs associated with disease-modifying therapies (DMTs) for patients with multiple sclerosis,1 what they've observed at their center, the wide-reaching impact of this waste on the healthcare continuum, and the future solutions that are being worked on for this problem.

Click here for more coverage of this story: Multiple Sclerosis DMT Waste Is Staggering, New Study Shows

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The stories featured in this week's Neurology News Minute, which will give you quick updates on the following developments in neurology, are further detailed here:


1:45 – Background on the study conducted by Okuda et al.

4:05 – Perspective on the cost driven by DMT waste

6:30 – Current landscape of prescriptions and adherence in MS

8:35 – Disparities in MS treatment adherence

11:00 – The link to the physician-patient relationship

16:40 – The process of choosing a DMT and shared decision-making

23:00 – Neurology News Minute

25:45 – Finding solutions to the DMT waste problem

33:40 – The role of the individual neurologist and patient

38:30 – Access to specialist care and resources

42:40 – Building trust with patients and general medical mistrust

47:00 – Next steps and closing thoughts

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1. Okuda DT, Burgess KW, Cook K, McCreary M, Winkler MD, Moog TM. Hiding in plain sight: the magnitude of unused disease-modifying therapies in multiple sclerosis and strategies for reducing the economic burden. Mult Scler Relat Disord. 2022;63:103920. doi:10.1016/j.msard.2022.103920